1. Freedom for Second Life!

Posted at 8:27PM on Aug 11th 2006 by Dave Lime

2. If you want a virtual world with different rules, go create one. If you want to stay in Second Life, form up an organization of like-minded individuals and buy a private Sim, and set the rules the way you want there.

I really don't understand the desire some people have to turn things like Second Life into some sort of democracy. Look at the real world- how often do the citizens of any country vote the way *you* want? How often do they vote for some brain-dead grafting idiot? Or some policy or referendum that anyone with half a brain could see was fundamentally flawed? Do you *really* want to import that into your virtual experience? If the population of your idealized "democratic" virtual world voted for something you disagreed with, what would you do? Oh, just like in the real world- you'd grief some more poor by-standers.

I suspect most people subjected to these kinds of protests, the vast majority of people in Second Life, would see it as I do: a griefing activity. Take it outside the virtual world, keep it on your website or in your own forums- I'm not interested in it, thanks.

Posted at 9:22PM on Aug 11th 2006 by Tomas Hausdorff

3. P.S.: I loved your response (this post), Aimee- very humourous :)

And as a fur-bearing resident of Second Life, I have to ask...why the heck did this guy have to choose a furry avatar?

Posted at 9:30PM on Aug 11th 2006 by Tomas Hausdorff

4. I found the "MY SALES!!! YOU NO GOOD @#$!*&#" part very interesting, aren't those American Apparel sales, does Amy receieve all $L from sales at the store, does the company get a cut, is AA just an approval by someone to build it as advertising with no ties beyond that?

Posted at 10:26PM on Aug 11th 2006 by A Prototype

5. As an upper-right Platformist, I feel compelled to point out that as the SL servers are on US soil, any actions commited involving them... are... on US soil. Let the flaming begin.

As a Canadian, my heritage is defined by beer commercials (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BRI-A3vakVg) and by CBC Heritage Minutes. (http://www.histori.ca/minutes/default.do?page=.index)

As such, I know that the Hudson's Bay Company's territory, Rupert's Land, consisted of the Hudson Bay watershed, thus only extending into very small parts of modern-day North Dakota and Minnesota. When Rupert's Land was handed over to the newly-founded Dominion of Canada, the modern-day border had already been set years earlier.

It's true that the Hudson's Bay Company operated at various times within the United States after it was formally founded, maintaining trade monopolies and defacto police forces in the Oregon territory. However, their association with what would become Canada far exceeded anything they did within the US. America had been a sovereign nation for nearly 100 years by the time the HBC ceased to control Rupert's Land.

This concludes today's Catherine Omega Historical Moment.

Posted at 11:48PM on Aug 11th 2006 by Catherine Omega

6. The "Nation Party" is Aimee's silly, distorted idea of what a "party" would be if there were one associated with some of the values of worldists such as myself, who feel the celebration and development of Den Platforme Uber Alles by stepping on and destroying the world, is morally and legally wrong.

But there is no such party, and I am sure not in -- it's extremist. I don't endorse or associate myself in any way with this extremist furry Lime, either. No way. You don't destroy people's property, or intimidate them, or turn guns on them, or shout stuff. There's no need to disrupt the operations of a property owner like American Apparel in Second Life.

I'm not sure of what Aimee's relationship is still to AA, or what she means by "her sales". What, she makes stuff under the AA brand now as virtual stuff? They've GOM'd her own stuff she used to sell as Preen? Or? Ugh, that's not good, I was hoping these big businesses wouldn't totally wipe out indigenous content.

Companies like AA coming into SL are a very mixed bag for sure. We don't know what they will do for the world, if anything, or what kind of social responsibility they will have, if any, or what their hired hands like Aimee will be doing.

Avatar rights are important, and avatars should have human rights. They don't stop being human just because they sign a TOS and some non-state actor intrudes on their freedoms.

Those celebrating the excessive powers of companies and claiming that companies don't need democracy or that companies that make worlds don't need democracy are merely replicating a conservative view of RL that in fact is increasingly discredited a modern companies attempt to become more socially responsible and attentive to rights, not less.

A company like AA that affects the market/economy/quality of life etc outside its own sim can't be shoehorned into the idea of "have your own sim and do what you want on it". I hardly think we need to limit democracy to a concept of "in one sim" when democracy is the very substrate as well as the overarching principle of what it makes it possible to be free in SL in the first place. A million fiefdoms, populated by big companies and people who trample on rights, is the result of that "on your own sim" stuff. I'm all for having people do their own thing on their own sim. But I think it's fine to espouse some universal principles that could ensure basic human rights across sims. Otherwise, we get Balkanization.

Posted at 2:26AM on Aug 12th 2006 by Prokofy Neva

7. Dave Lime is probably an alt of someone's; he's got a n00b name and the n00b furry outfit, but he knows what he's talking about.

But then again, maybe he's just a n00b...

Posted at 4:33AM on Aug 12th 2006 by Claryssa Schmidt

8. Hello.

My name is Nathan Sam and, i'have created a sportewear mark but, iactually, i' m looking for an invetsor. Som do you know a person who could become an invetsor for me?
My email adress is Sam_Upright@hotmail.com.
I' m from Montreal ( Canada ). and, i' m a studiant in Chinese language. this email i send to you is not a joke.
I' m waiting for your answer.

Beat regard to you

Posted at 1:42PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Upright Sam

9. Best regard to You.
I' m waiting for your nest answer.

Sam Upright

Posted at 1:48PM on Oct 4th 2006 by Upright Sam