1. Greetings Nacon,

I don't see both approaches as exclusive. Nothing prevents you from using a scripted cam and the joystick. There are downsides to both approaches. Try and do a spiral, or twister , or earthquake (shaking cam) with a joystick. Joystick cam doesn't provide followcam effects either (to my knowledge). Another thing is, let's be honest, joystick may be a bit tough to setup at first for a newbie.

I made this device mainly for ease of setup and use, and cam movement automation. Joystick is great for moving the cam, but it doesn't provide automated cam movements. Personally I think both good scripted cams and joystick, or even better the SpaceNavigator (from 3DConnection) are all useful weapons to better tame the cam. Some will prefer only joystick, others will use both, but for automated effects I think scripted cams are essential until we make a Machinima SL Client.

Codie

Posted at 1:07PM on Sep 23rd 2007 by CodeBastard Redgrave

2. Still easier to use Joystick Cam in Debug mode.

That is if you have 2 joy-axis sticks (similar to Playstation's controller with 2 joysticks), it's the best way to go.

Posted at 1:07PM on Sep 23rd 2007 by Nacon

3. isn't this that freeware camera script with a few modifications to respond to custom gestures set to be triggered by the F-keys?


and this made me remeber to go file a jira report about the joycam not recognizing any joysticks on my machine :/

Posted at 12:55AM on Sep 24th 2007 by TigroSpottystripes Katsu

4. @TigroSpottystripes

I wish it was that simple. Of course I picked some of the custom followcam definitions from Dan Linden's script. But there's actually at least 6 completely self made cam effects in this device, they all work with positioning computations. I'm working on 8 new effects at the moment, most of those to be included in the next release. It's a complete rewrite. Apart the cam definitions themselves, I started from scratch but I named the cams the same way for people that are familiar with it to know what those effect does. The free script doesn't do auto-hide, actually doesn't accept voice commands, doesn't support camera position locking, and is pretty messy (no pun intended, the script your talking about is old stuff).

So if your trying to mean I ripped a free script and only added gestures, good try. I worked for weeks on that thing so I really wished it was that easy. I'm not saying I reinvented the wheel either. Gestures are just the best hack I could think of, knowing there is not that many ways to control a script with no visible interface.

Of course this is the intro version, it only contains the most basic effects, but I'm keeping working my ass off this thing, so more to come.

Posted at 12:55AM on Sep 24th 2007 by CodeBastard Redgrave

5. As someone who has been dabbling in SL Machinima for a while now, the MachinimaCam is going to be an invaluable tool for me.

I'm looking forwards to spending some more one-on-one time with this (the cam!) :)

Good work as usual :) I can't imagine the new effects your planning will be anything less than superb :)

Posted at 9:48AM on Sep 24th 2007 by Tenebrous Pau

6. @CodeBastard Redgrave

nonono, sorry if I sounded like I meant any offense, that couldn't be further away from the truth, it was just a combination of me trying to check if my memory wasn't playing tricks on me (As it often do) making me think I was recognizing some of the things I saw on that video, with this (bad?)habit I have of trying to guess how things were done, nothing more than that

unfortunatly you haven't been the first person to get caught in the crossfire between my ideas and the words my brain randomly picks out to express them (and I'm afraid unless I acidentaly hit my head hard on a powerline or for some reason get under a medication with the unexpected side-effect of making me realize all the possible ways people will interpret what I say that I wouldn't interpret myself, you're probably not going to be the last :/


summing up, no offense intended, and I'm sorry I bothered you with the jumbled up stuff that comes from inside my skull u.u

Posted at 5:53PM on Sep 24th 2007 by TigroSpottystripes Katsu

7. @TigroSpottystripes Katsu

hey no offense taken gentleman! you have seen it right, and its an openly admitted fact that I used those cam defs, that would have been dumb not using them. so you were not hallucinating and sorry if I misinterpreted your intent. after over 500 lines of code and a few sleepless nights launching this thing, i'm sometimes a bit fuzzy XD

take care

Codie

Posted at 11:11PM on Sep 24th 2007 by CodeBastard Redgrave

8. Great work Codie, you put a lot of effort into this!!

Posted at 1:50PM on Sep 26th 2007 by zaphodd sion

9. way cool Codie! George Lucas should be calling on you soon!
-poke

Posted at 7:23PM on Sep 26th 2007 by Poke

10. OnRez listing changed:

http://shop.onrez.com/item/370878

Anyways please always refer to the product page for download/updates:

http://codebastard.com/machinimacam/

TY

Posted at 1:02AM on Oct 4th 2007 by CodeBastard Redgrave